Potential for MUFC allocation increase at Spurs thanks to co-operation between trusts MUST and THST

17 06 2014

Potential for MUFC allocation increase at Spurs thanks to co-operation between @MU_ST & @THSTOfficial : Item 4 here: bit.ly/1vzwY9e

Tottenham Hotspur Supporters’ Trust/THFC Police & Safety Forum Meeting
Minutes - Monday 9 June 2014 6.00pm-8.10pm

Attendees:
Sue Tilling, Safety Officer, THFC (ST)
Constable Steve Payne, Football Intelligence Officer, Metropolitan Police
Brian Awty, British Transport Police
Bob McIver, Head of Building Control, Haringey Council (BM) (HC)
Katrina Law, Secretary, THST (KL)
Martin Cloake, THST
Paul Head, THST
Suraj Sharma, THST


4. Man Utd allocation at White Hart Lane
- KL explained that THST operated in a way that was different to earlier iterations of the Trust in that we worked closely with other Trusts on issues that affected all of us. Coalition campaigning had been a big plus for THST last season. With this in mind, we’d agreed to raise the issue of the Manchester United allocation at White Hart Lane, on behalf of our counterparts at the Manchester United Supporters’ Trust

- THST campaigned hard against allocations for Spurs fans being reduced, particularly at the Emirates stadium, last season and we've also argued on a number of occasions that all fans should not be punished for the actions of a minority - so this approach has to apply to all fans across the board. We want to see all fans treated in the way we would expect to be treated

- Since 2009/10, MUFC fans have received c 1900 tickets for their Premier League matches at Tottenham – a reduction of c 1100 tickets on a standard allocation

- Various reasons have been given for this reduction including persistent standing in an upper tier, poor behaviour at the turnstiles at the 2012/13 match and bad behaviour at not only WHL but other PL grounds throughout the season

- KL asked ST of THFC and BM of HC to confirm the situation for 2014/2015

- It was confirmed MUFC fans would be monitored in the run up to the match at WHL and a decision would be made c 8 weeks in advance of the fixture

- There was an appetite to award a partial increase to MUFC providing there weren’t any major incidents in the run up

- BM of HC agreed to speak with MUST ahead of any decision being made on their allocation next season. MUST to make contact accordingly

- KL stressed the importance of engaging supporter groups in discussions such as these, where peer to peer influence can be a real factor and where fans can be formally represented and allowed to express their points of view

- It was agreed there was definitely an opportunity for dialogue here

- It was also stressed that this kind of decision was not solely about Man United. Any Club with any fans who behaved poorly at various grounds across the country would be monitored and allocations cut, if necessary

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Human shaped emptiness; report on Manchester United v Sunderland 3 May 2014

03 05 2014

Match Report by United fan Paul James

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Singing Section - MUFC agree to work on solutions to allow STs who wish to, to remain in J Stand

27 04 2014

MUST has welcomed proposals to address J Stand enforced moves for the Singing Section (SS). If an SS was to go ahead our preference was not for it be in J stand and we opposed (publicly and in privately to the Club) the enforced relocation of J Standers.

However we also wanted to help to find a better solution in the event that the Club decision would not be reversed or paused. In response to our suggestion to pause the process we were told it would not be possible.

It is also important to note that the success or otherwise of the proposed solution depends on relative numbers who choose different options but the Club tell us they are confident this is possible. 

Also worth adding at this point we've had more than enough splits in fanbase over various issues and singling out individuals is a distraction and counterproductive in terms of getting a better outcome now and in future. Fans need to be unified to maximise influence.

A few points to clarify still re: those J Standers who wish to stay in terms of whether they will (i) be in a Singing Section and (ii) allowed to stay in own seats and/or in main SS section if they wish to. Will get clarification as soon as possible.


Official Club summary note from Friday's Fans Forum re: the Singing Section

The concept of a Singing Section is a 5 year+ fan led initiative which the club has agreed to support and we will implement it from the start of next season.J is the best place for it based on Acoustic Engineer reports and after discounting all other options for practical reasons.As we’ve said in previous forum meetings (September minutes), inevitably some fans would have to be moved.Individual fans and the fan groups SEF, Fans United MUFC and Reclaim United were involved in the concept of a Singing Section but not the final decision regarding where it would be.

This was a club decision. It wasn't an easy decision as we are aware of the impact on long-standing fans and we are doing everything we can to respect the wishes and to listen to these fans.To that end we have attempted to contact every single ST holder in J stand and where we have made contact we have listened to their preferences.

We are confident we will be able to satisfy all their preferences – including those who want to stay and actively take part in the Singing Section.In recent weeks we have sought the input of MUST and IMUSA and we have carved out a section of J (to the far left of N2402 and closest to SAF Stand) for those existing STH's who have a strong desire to be in the Singing Section.

These fans need to understand that they are joining a Singing Section and the experience from next season will be different. The feedback on the development of this special section has been positive.There is a comprehensive compensation package for those in J Stand who have opted to move out of J – and many have already moved.

There is absolute commitment from the club to re-seat these J Standers as a priority in the best available seats once the renewal deadline is passed and we have more visibility on availability. (Being temporarily allocated North Stand Tier 3 is a way to create a holding place on the system not the only option).

Fans in J will all continue to be contacted individual by individual but they are encouraged to ring the TO so we can log their preference.

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The road not taken; report on Manchester united v Norwich City 26 April 2014

26 04 2014

Match Report by United fan Paul James

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Email update from MUST - Glazers at OT, David Moyes bows out

25 04 2014

An update from MUST - Glazers at OT - Green & Gold, David Moyes bows out

 Green & Gold reminder for the Glazers

Glazers at Old Trafford tomorrow - a Green & Gold welcome

So the Glazers will be making a rare appearance at Old Trafford tomorrow. If you're going to the match, make sure you welcome them with Green & Gold. Pick up a G&G scarf from the MUST Stall outside 18 Sir Matt Busby Way or mail order from www.MUSTShop.org

THE MAGNIFICENT 7s limited edition series - number 1 - George BestHow your print will be packaged.

THE MAGNIFICENT 7s limited edition series - number 1 - George Best

Absolutely bloody gorgeous Georgie!

The Magnificent 7s -  limited edition prints - only 77 copies for each player will ever be produced, exclusively for MUST.

"When I'm gone people will forget all the rubbish and all that will be remembered will be the football. That'll do for me."

Full details and to order click here:
http://bit.ly/1mNkgzs

The artist, Justin Eagleton presenting his portrait of George Best to George's son, Calum

 Goodbye David Moyes

 David Moyes

David Moyes bows out but Glazers can't escape responsibility #1

A few MUST related interviews responding to this story:

MUST response to the dismissal of Manchester United manager David Moyes
http://bit.ly/1faVObQ

VIDEO: Manchester Evening News: Manchester United Supporters Trust calls for club to be sold in the Reds' week from hell
http://bit.ly/1gV3FFd

The Glazer family have been blamed for the current crisis at Manchester United and told they must invest in the squad
http://dailym.ai/QDnXfT

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MUST Lottery - how to play

Support the MUST Lottery and win shirts signed by Wayne Rooney or Bobby Charlton, £25,000 jackpot

This week you will win a shirt signed by Denis Law if you match 4 numbers or £25,000 if you match 5 - . Entry cut off is 5pm every Fridaywww.MUSTLottery.com

Click here to read  what the MUST Lottery is raising money for and please ask your United friends to play it too

Play today and be entered into the April free new players draw for a signed Sir Bobby Charlton shirt

MUST Lottery

 

David Moyes

David Moyes bows out but Glazers can't escape responsibility #2

BBC: 'Red Knight' Jim O'Neill on Man Utd's business v sport dilemma
http://t.co/8XKjogBBib

BBC: Red Knight, Paul Marshall, on Newsnight last night talking MUFC management, ownership and fans:
http://bbc.in/1i89aF1

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MUST response to the dismissal today of Manchester United manager David Moyes

22 04 2014

In response to the dismissal today of Manchester United manager David Moyes, MUST - the Manchester United Supporters Trust released this statement:
 
 
We all understand football's a results based business and clearly the results were not good so it was no surprise that the manager paid the price for that failure.
 
However we believe the cause of the malaise at Manchester United runs much deeper than the single appointment of one man as manager. We need to look forward now and if the next manager is to have the best chance to flourish, wider issues need to be resolved to create the right conditions for success.
 
United probably peaked on the pitch in 2009 and since then we've seen a gradual decline, slowed only by the genius of Sir Alex Ferguson. Despite some key successes in that time, if anything the other elite European clubs have moved further ahead, while the domestic challenge has also become much stronger. The foundations of that early success were laid prior to the Glazer takeover with strong reinvestment of plc profits back into the squad recruiting players like Ferdinand, Rooney and Ronaldo.
 
The Club can (should) only spend money that it has and, unfortunately, the Club's owners have spent hundreds of millions of the Club’s money on financial restructuring, interest and debt payments and this has limited funds available for reinvestment in the playing squad.
 
We do not doubt that this summer will see significant funds made available to the new manager, but this isn't going to be resolved in one transfer window. We need to change the financial model as the reinvestment has to be sustained at the levels of our main rivals. That won't please the Glazers as it will eat up their potential profits for the foreseeable future and therein lies the conflict.
 
This is not to say we want United to operate under the ownership of a wealthy individual, we much prefer the Club simply being able to re-invest the money it generates itself, rather than that money being extracted from the Club.
 
The Glazers record of appointments at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is truly awful so it should come as no great surprise to see the same pattern emerge at Manchester United once the shield of Sir Alex Ferguson is no longer there to protect them.
 
The quicker the owners realise that the Club’s current problems are underpinned by their ownership model rather than just the identity of the manager, the better.
 
The challenge for the Glazers is that their ownership model, and valuation, is premised on the basis that either the club can operate on much lower investment levels and still compete as we did for so long under Sir Alex Ferguson or the club can generate enough surplus revenue to allow us to compete with the European elite whilst still having funds remaining for future dividends. 
 
 
Clearly the former is not possible following the retirement of Sir Alex and in actual fact United have gone backwards in relative financial terms from a position of undisputed number one in the football money league prior to the arrival of the Glazers to now occupying fourth place behind Real Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern Munich - all, not coincidentally, fan owned clubs who reinvest their profits.
 
In short - the sooner the Glazers recognise that Manchester United has to be able to reinvest its own revenues, and that there will be no surplus for them to cream off, the sooner they'll realise they need to cut and run before the market corrects the vastly inflated valuation of Manchester United. This is based on profits that cannot be sustained if the re-investment necessary to compete is to be made.

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Singing Section; Paul Scholes dedicated signed shirts; The Magnificent 7s - Georgie; Europa League..

11 04 2014

An update on the name personalised signed Paul Scholes shirts - more than half have now been sold. The date of the signing has been rescheduled to 23rd April (Paul is on holiday prior to that) so orders will close on 21st April.  

 Singing section to be made permanent

Singing Section made permanent

The club have announced that the Singing Section will be permanent starting next season and will be located in blocks N2401 and N2402 in the North-East Quadrant, which accounts for roughly 1,600 seats. Although MUST supported the concept of a singing section we have not been involved in the discussions and we do not support the compulsory relocation of long standing season ticket holders in those sections. Relocation of away fans would seem a preferable solution but without having independent access to information we're not in a position to be able to argue for an alternative solution.

Club announcement here:
http://bit.ly/1iDgFRx

Paul Scholes Dedicated Signed shirt - deadline April 14th
The legend that is Paul Scholes rarely does signings etc but he's agreed to do name dedicated signings as a one off

Paul Scholes to sign name dedicated shirts - 10 days to order yours
The legend that is Paul Scholes rarely does signings etc but he's agreed to do name dedicated signings as a one off so if you want one this could be your only chance. The signing date is 23rd April so orders need to be received no later than 21st April. Pre-order here: http://bit.ly/1jQJgYG

Paul Scholes Dedicated Signed shirt - deadline April 21st

 

Europa League

Europa League ticket price and ACS campaign victory

We understand that our campaign for concessions on Europa League ticketing, should we qualify, has been successful. The importance of this decision is that it shows the club will listen to fans when lobbied by MUST. That is progress!

Although the club have made no official announcement we've been informed that anyone calling the ticket office to purchase a season ticket is being told that:

Tickets will be 25% discounted for any qualifiers and group stage games, and will also not be part of the ACS.

Season Ticket holders can opt out of Europa League and/ or League cup on a season long basis or match by match.

However you will still need to buy tickets for these games if you wish to be able to apply for away games. 

THE MAGNIFICENT 7s limited edition series - number 1 - George BestHow your print will be packaged.

THE MAGNIFICENT 7s limited edition series - number 1 - George Best

Absolutely bloody gorgeous Georgie!

The Magnificent 7s -  limited edition prints - only 77 copies for each player will ever be produced, exclusively for MUST.

"When I'm gone people will forget all the rubbish and all that will be remembered will be the football. That'll do for me."

Full details and to order click here:
http://bit.ly/1mNkgzs

The artist, Justin Eagleton presenting his portrait of George Best to George's son, Calum

 

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MUST Lottery - how to play

Support the MUST Lottery and win shirts signed by Wayne Rooney or Bobby Charlton, £25,000 jackpot

This week you will win a shirt signed by Wayne Rooney if you match 4 numbers or £25,000 if you match 5 - . Entry cut off is 5pm every Friday - www.MUSTLottery.com

Click here to read  what the MUST Lottery is raising money for and please ask your United friends to play it too

Play today and be entered into the April free new players draw for a signed Sir Bobby Charlton shirt

MUST Lottery

 

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Through another man’s eyes; report on Newcastle United v Manchester United 5 April 2014

05 04 2014

Match Report by United fan Paul James

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This glorious quest; report on Manchester United v Bayern Munich 1 April 2014

01 04 2014

Match Report by United fan Paul James

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Latest MUST news United vs Bayern Munich tonight - 1st April 2014

01 04 2014

Hope we're all looking forward to a special night at OT tonight - no fear - let's go for it

 MUFC rabbit vs Bayern Wolf

Raise the roof tonight - United v Bayern 
If you're at Old Trafford tonight let's raise the roof and, whatever the score, lets support the lads till the final minute and make it a night for United fans to be proud of our performance. Send us a pic from your block - see link below

Wherever you're watching - send us a photo? Whether you're at OT tonight or watching the game with other Reds in your local - no matter where in the world -share it with us - click here to share details and pictures

And just to get you warmed up for tonight check out this inspiring MUFC vs Bayern video montage from @aditya_reds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0wyf7onwjE
 

Paul Scholes Dedicated Signed shirt - deadline April 14th
The legend that is Paul Scholes rarely does signings etc but he's agreed to do name dedicated signings as a one off

Paul Scholes to sign name dedicated shirts - 14 days to order yours
The legend that is Paul Scholes rarely does signings etc but he's agreed to do name dedicated signings as a one off so if you want one this could be your best chance. Signing date is 15th April TBC so orders need to be received by 14th at latest. More info and pre-order here: http://bit.ly/1jQJgYG

Paul Scholes Dedicated Signed shirt - deadline April 14th

 

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Reports - Class of 92 to lead takeover of Manchester United?
We were sceptical about this story and have since had it confirmed by several sources that it is not true - at least not at this point. However it was a good opportunity to outline a better ownership model for MUFC. Many fans would find the idea of the Class of 92 fronting a takeover of MUFC, ideally with a significant fan stake similar to Bayern Munich, a mouth watering prospect. We hope this might whet the lads appetite.

MUST response to Class of 92 Manchester United takeover story - release us from Glazers’ shackles
http://bit.ly/1ftCqkj

 

THE MAGNIFICENT 7s limited edition series - number 1 - George Best

THE MAGNIFICENT 7s limited edition series - number 1 - George Best

Check out these superb limited edition prints - only 77 will ever be produced, and exclusively for MUST. Absolutely bloody gorgeous Georgie!

Full details and to order click here:
http://bit.ly/1mNkgzs

 

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MUST Lottery - how to play

Support the MUST Lottery (UK ONLY) and win shirts sigend by RVP, Bobby Charlton, £25,000 jackpot

This week you will win a shirt signed by Robin Van Persie if you match 4 numbers or £25,000 if you match 5 www.MUSTLottery.com

Click here to read  what the MUST Lottery is raising money for and please ask your United friends to play it too.

Play today and be entered into the April free new players draw for a signed Sir Bobby Charlton shirt

MUST Lottery

 

No plans to sell Old Trafford name

Old Trafford will not be renamed The Nike Bowl!

Despite rumours to the contrary, and let's face it this sounds like a bad April Fool's joke, we do not believe that Old Trafford is about to be renamed the Nike Bowl or anything similar. Why would Nike want to pay to be on the receiving end of hatred and vitriol from millions of MUFC supporters around the world? 

Story here on ESPN: No plans to sell Old Trafford name

 

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